Religion, Science and Art

I titled this post as such to gain the attention of a certain market. First, I wanted to attract anyone that considers themselves religious – specifically those that  DO believe in a place called “hell”. Secondly, I wanted to attract those that don’t believe in any religion or gods or hell for that matter. I put science in this title since science and chemistry is a part of what this topic is about. It is the crux of how this entire show is produced. (I will be posting a video for you to watch and that video is the “show”).  I put “art” in the title since you can interpret this stuff as a form of art – if you are creative enough.

Now, are you ready for a wild ride? Alright. This post includes a very short summary of Mark chapter 9 from the New Testament.

When I was in bible college we were told a lot of bullshit. Some things were more absurd than others.  I wish I could remember where I heard the theory that our bodies (if one were to go to hell that is) would become, or turn into a snake like creature or a “worm” if you would. This theory is based off the bible verse (Yes, it is in the New Testament. I’m sorry that many of these stories that preachers tell are based on New Testament scripture) that says “Where their worm dieth not, and the fire is not quenched”.  I looked it up and it is Mark 9:44.

Now if you look at the entire chapter – the entire chapter builds on this “life after death” thing – and builds upon this “lack of faith”.  In the beginning of the chapter you will see Jesus talking to Peter, James and John. All three men saw Elias and Moses. Then Peter suggested to Jesus that they make three temples – one for Jesus, one for Elias and one for Moses. Then a cloud appeared and the “voice of god” said “This is my beloved Son, hear him”.  So whatever he was going to say was important. After the three men walked down the mountain and after Jesus briefly explained about the “son of man” and how he be disregarded and suffer many things. . .he see’s people arguing with the scribes. Mind you people are all around him since this is Jesus and people want to be healed.  Jesus asked why the scribes were arguing. After a man brought his son to Jesus to be healed and after he told the man to believe (so his son could be healed) and after his son was healed and after his disciples asked why they couldn’t cast out demons, Jesus tells them one must fast and pray to do that kind of act. I’m sure if this really did happen anyone would want flee to another city to be hidden and that is what Jesus did. Of course his disciples followed him. In vs 30 he went through Galilee since he didn’t want anyone to know where he went. He told his disciples (again) that the “son of man” will be murdered and in three days will rise from the dead. But his disciples didn’t understand. Just like in vs 9 they didn’t understand. They didn’t want to ask him what he meant since they were afraid. Jesus asked them why they were arguing (vs 33) and his disciples kept quiet since they were at odds with who was the greatest or best person.  Then Jesus said ” “Anyone who wants to be first must be the very last, and the servant of all.”  Jesus then took a child and said that “if you welcome children, then you welcome me” Basically he was saying one must accept people just as children accept people. Without judgement. Then the disciples told Jesus that they stopped someone from driving out a demon since that person was not in their group. Jesus told them to not stop people from doing that since Jesus claimed that people that do anything in his name, can’t do any evil saying “or whoever is not against us is for us” vs 40. 

now we get to vs 41-45. Since this entire chapter was more about faith than anything else – Jesus talks about hurting his little ones. The children that believe in him. He says in vs 42  that “whosoever shall offend one of these little ones that believe in me, it is better for him that a millstone were hanged about his neck, and he were cast into the sea”. vs 43 “And if thy hand offend thee, cut it off; it is better for thee to enter into life maimed, than having two hands to go into hell, into the fire that never shall be quenched”. vs 44 says “4 Where their worm dieth not, and the fire is not quenched.“.  Up until vs 43 most of it is subjective and a parable.

But for a certain amount of Christians out there, this verse about their worm dieth not and the fire is not quenched – it means an eternal literal fire in a literal place called hell. Hell is not a figure of speech for the Christian. It is a real place. This verse for the Christian means that hell is forever. Since the verse says “worm dieth not” means the fire never kills the worm. It also means the fire is never put out. The fire never ends.

Now where did this person (the person preaching this sermon) get the idea that people become worms in hell? I guess he just dreamed it up since I don’t know anything more absurd than a person’s soul (you can’t touch this, you can’t see it)  going to hell and then that person’s soul magically getting a body and that body is in the form of a worm.

Remember – the soul is something that you can’t touch. I personally believe we all have a soul. I don’t know if that soul is the same as a spirit or not – and I don’t care to dive into soul/spirit dichotomy or debate right now.  But I do believe there’s something inside of each of us that makes us who we are. And when we die, that essence of who we are lives on somewhere else. Perhaps we take on another body form through reincarnation? I don’t know. But I do know that I do not believe in a literal place with fire called Hell.  I’ve even heard of a preacher say that due to these special fish at the very bottom of the ocean called “tube worms” – I’ve heard of preachers claiming that these tube worms are proof  and evidence of hell fire being at the center of the Earth.

Here is one website that talks about these tubeworms and how religions talk about hell and how they (the religions) describe hell:  http://www.truthcontest.com/entries/the-present-with-religion/hell.html

Another article that shows how these tube worms live in an environment full of hydrogen sulfide (H2S)  (a type of gas) in the ocean and can grow up to 8 feet in length. http://www.extremescience.com/deep-sea-vents.htm

So now we come to science. I know I had to save this toward the end. But it is good shit.  First I need to look up sulfur and where in our world it can be found.  So I consulted Wikipedia and just as I thought. Around very hot places: It says  “On Earth, elemental sulfur can be found near hot springs and volcanic regions in many parts of the world, especially along the Pacific Ring of Fire; such volcanic deposits are currently mined in Indonesia, Chile, and Japan”.

So since Christians believe that hell is a real place and they also believe that this place is a place of eternal hell fire, and they also believe this hell is in the center of the Earth . . .then yes, it would make a good match for one to discover these tube worms – in hell.

In the KVJ Bible, sulfur is referred to as brimstone. If you read the bible, you will see this word “brimstone” everywhere. I’ve been told so many times when I was in bible college that Jesus spoke about hell (the real fire hell that people believe in) more than any other topic.  Now of course the new testament is not too concerned with people in this lifetime, nor too concerned with people as they live out their days on Earth. The NT is more concerned with people’s souls and where that soul ends up (heaven or hell). So I would expect Jesus to talk about hell often since his “purpose” if you will was to direct people away from hell and direct them to heaven. I don’t believe any of this, this is based on what “God” said throughout the new testament and it is also found in the old testament.

But let’s take another turn. Since we can find sulfur in hot areas on Earth and since we can make a wild claim that these tube worm could grow and survive in “hell” – can we put science into it? Take  NH4Cr2O7 with HgSCN. And burn it using a lighter. What happens? Well. . . you get a serpent/snake/worm that is known as “Pharaoh’s Serpent” and it is a firework show.

 

HgSCN is Mercury(II) thiocyanate. When ignited alone it will produce a large serpent, often called “Pharaoh’s serpent” or “Pharaoh’s snake”. When igniting it is breaks down as ” carbon nitride, C2N4. Mercury(II) sulfide and carbon disulfide are also produced”  then “Flammable carbon disulfide combusts to carbon(IV) oxide and sulfur(IV) oxide: CS2 + 3O2 → CO2 + 2SO2″ http://io9.com/5947370/what-in-the-name-of-all-that-is-holy-is-going-on-in-this-video 

and NH4Cr207? That is Ammonium dichromate. Apparently there is more for me to read about HgSCN than NH4Cr207. And from what I have read, you can get a “snake” from burning HgSCN alone. Either way – if you mix it with the other chemical or not, you get sulfur from burning it. So now my question is this:  Could there be a logical explanation of this idea of “hell” connected to “the center of the earth” and  “worms in hell”?

Perhaps (if hell was a real place) hell would be a place so hot – and perhaps one could find both HgSCN Mercury(II) thiocyanate and NH4Cr207. And if “god” supplies the “fire” in hell – magically –  just by him “being god” —  then what would naturally result from this fire (if these two chemicals were found there?) Well, I guess if this fire never went out – since it is eternal fire – then could this create an infinite amount of Pharaoh’s snake fireworks? It is something to think about. Can you imagine being in a hot place seeing a fireworks show and seeing two chemicals come together and doing this forever?  Now of course, according to any Christian, they will tell you that you will not see anything since your body will be on fire and you will be in pain. But some claim that your body will turn into a worm.

Now – I’m not sure how to explain this in terms of getting this Pharaoh’s snake – and making a connection with the tube worms found in the bottom of the ocean. I have no idea what some crazed bible thumping Christian would say about trying to prove that the worms in the bottom of the ocean are “gateways” to hell or proof that these tubeworms lead to hell or are even a part of hell. I also don’t know what a bible thumper would say about these tube worms showing evidence of hell. But I know I have been around baptist preachers in the past that claim all of this is true. Imagine. It could all be some simply chemistry and chemicals mixed together.

Lucifer’s Squid as art?: I’m not sure about this one. You probably wouldn’t want to touch it since mercury is toxic. And you can’t purchase these two chemicals from your local chemical store. But I guess if you could do is as a science experience in a high school, perhaps one could look at it as a piece of art.

http://fineartamerica.com/showmessages.php?messageid=2385135

You want a video of this grant performance don’t you? Sure you do. But don’t call me a witch doctor. Be sure to not do this at home. You must do it in a safe area outdoors and you must dispose of the mercury properly. You can not flush any of the mercury or the “snake” which is also made of mercury down the tiolet. Mercury is highly toxic. The 2nd video is over 10 minutes long and you will see an amazing reaction in about 7 minutes in.

http://youtu.be/UU6NDH-KOME

http://youtu.be/PC3o2KgQstA

 

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